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Postby keithcross » Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:50 pm

Hi everyone.

I have just been in contact with a fellow Baghira owner who is fitting XT600 wheels to his Baggi. He has found that the XT600 uses different wheel bearing than the Baghira.
Jus tin case anyone is thinking of buying some XT600 wheels for their MZ

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Postby Randew2U » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:45 pm

please keep us posted keith. Im looking to pick up an 18/21 setup for my BP at some point!
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Postby mzgatto » Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:35 pm

Motorrad N.A. offers a kit to convert to 18-21 includes 2 wheels, 1 disc ,
sidestand & speedo drive. Also 17-17 to convert the enduro to supermoto.
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Postby keithcross » Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:49 am

I was aware of this kit, it apprently costs $1000 in the US or £800 in the UK

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Postby gedge » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:21 am

Keith I have just been offered some TT600 wheels for my baggy, he wants £300 but that includes tyres and sprockets and discs......


however I have declined at the mo as I think a seperate trailbike would be better so I dont have to faf around changing them every 5 minutes..

what do you reckon?
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Postby keithcross » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:25 am

Gedge

Several riders in http://www.solentsupermotos have got off raod wheels for their bikes as well. If you talk to them they never use them and reckon they are not really worth buying as they get on OK with teh 17" rims,, if these arent good enough then the way to go is to get a smaller lighter bike. Might be different in teh USA though as you have more choice of off road places to ride.
BTW 7 MZ's in the solent group at least now. If this keeps up will soon outnumber the KTM's.

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Postby gedge » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:46 am

I think you're right./ I have my eeys on a little 250 two stroke suzuki ( later version of your TS ) .... Its gonna go for about £1200, which all things consdiered would be a betterbet than just a set of wheels... I think UK off road doesnt really suit a big bike ( although tomorrow you wil see the ranges which do :-D ).. I think I will hold on for now.. see ya tomorrow :D
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Postby Randew2U » Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:18 am

Here in upstate New York, there are plenty of places to off-road. I'd like t oconvert to 18/21 in the late fall to go off-road. I constantly watch ebay and would like to pick up used wheels for a fraction of the Motorrad NA price and have the set. Is it an afternoon project to switch over?
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Postby keithcross » Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:27 am

Once you have carried out any mods required (ie new, different bearings on the front and maybe the rear as well), you should be able to swap wheels in an afternoon. If you have the correct discs fitted to both sets of wheels then it should be possible to swap them over in under 2 hours.

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Postby Randew2U » Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:15 pm

thats what im looking for!! Perhaps someone mechanical can explain how they accomplish it.
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Postby smr96 » Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:54 am

I think switching to 18"21" will be a waste of time and money. I have a BP reduced height and have taken it off road several places in so. cal. with the stock 17's. I even road on the beach in Mexico with the stock rims and tires! It works surprisingly well for its weight. With the lowered seat height it doesn't feel as big and heavy as it really is. The gearing off road was the biggest surprise. Even with stock rubber it climbs some pretty gnarly hills! It will pull like a tractor and not require clutch slipping. I was worried about the rear not hooking up and just spinning in the dirt but it didn't. The whole point of getting this bike was to have one bike for dirt and street (need to downsize my fleet and put some money back in the bank) and while I wouldn't do everything I can on my WR450 it works within its limits and switching rim size isn't going to transform it into a dirt bike. Plus the wider contact patch of the stock tires really helps with stability off road! Best for last, there are motocross tires that will fit on your 17" rims!!!
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Postby keithcross » Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:14 pm

I agree on this, I took my Baggi off road this afternoon with the stock road wheels and tyres and it was pretty good. The terrain was a mixture of packed gravel, loose gravel and rocks and finally mud.
The main limitation was my ability. This must be the case as the other 10 SM's I was with left me behind.

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Postby Randew2U » Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:00 pm

Great on sand and gravel I hear. My area has these Lacustrine Varved Clays which were deposited at the bottom of the the last glacial lake, that turn into butter when wet. I probably need some mud clearing knobbies!! Out here there are 3 quads to every dirt bike in the woods. I sold my prized 83 Honda 200ES Big Red three wheeler to buy my Baggy. The Big Red was a go-anywhere tank, with shaft drive, electric start, hi-lo-reverse, 5-speed automatic. Now my hunting buddy own's it. I need to figure how to drag whitetail deer out of the woods with my Baggy now. Anyone seen a tow-behind wagon hitched to a baggy?
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Postby keithcross » Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:18 pm

Never ween a baggi tow a trailer, but it should be perfectly ok for this. As for surfaces, the surfaces in woods I drove through today consisted of garvel, sans, rocks ruts filled with water and a fair share of mud. Some of eth area seemed to consist of chalk as well. It was a bit slippery in places but the bike still coped better than me :D .

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Postby phlat65 » Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:15 pm

one problem I can see with the xt600 wheels, the later rims were steel! I sqared the wheels on my 93 XT600. since you have to change wheel bearings anyway, you might as will get some better wheels. IMHO.
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