Got a problem already

SM, SX, RT, FunX, and models re-branded as ATK in U.S.

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Re: Got a problem already

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:16 pm

ITS A LITTLE RELAY ITS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS BIKE
READ THIS LINK
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2085&hilit=relayrelay

ITS POSTED ABOVE IN ONE OF MY POSTS
AND IT ALSO CAUSES PROBLEMS WITH THE 660CC BIKES
LIKE MY TRAVELLER
the red/black and red/white wire on this relay control the whole bike if its sick the bike is sick
the one on my bike was too small and the contacts went bad inside
power comes to it from the key switch
and the kill button ,the side stand switch and the neutral lamp switch in the transmission all work
through it to kill the motor if you put bike in gear with the side stand down
or use the kill button
check kill button it may be part off part on right at its switching point and cause this also
cycle it off and on several times then push all the way left
DAVE

this was in a post in this section
a few days ago find and reread the whole post

test wire can be 2 male spade lugs on each end of a 6inch piece of wire
this little item should be made and in tool kit at all times
and used to get you running when it all fowls up
but not used all the time
because it bypasses the kill button and side stand switch
and may make the neutral light work funny
Dave 2002 MZ RT125+1995 Saxon Tour(500cc)
1997 MZ 660 Traveller+6/13/09 WV USA
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of everything"
"I like the road less traveled if it's PAVED!"
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby chadz » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:44 pm

I am comfused, do I buy a different really thats more reliable?or cross wire ?i never had one issue with my mz sm125 like this :/cheers
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:47 pm

the jump wire is to test if relay is the problem..
or to get you home in case relay or the side stand switch go out

my rt125 and my 660 traveller both have had this relay go bad.

have had pm's from several 125cc bike owners across all 4stroke models that have had a problem
with this relay
it carries all the electric that the bike uses. when running
except the high current to the starter motor when it runs

dave
Dave 2002 MZ RT125+1995 Saxon Tour(500cc)
1997 MZ 660 Traveller+6/13/09 WV USA
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of everything"
"I like the road less traveled if it's PAVED!"
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby chadz » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:12 am

Am i best getting one from new then? but then again if its a common problem is it not best looking for a better relay that will cope with the job?cheers
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:22 am

AUTO PARTS HOUSES HAVE THEM
its plug and play there is one spade lug thats small needs changed to bigger lug
dave
Dave 2002 MZ RT125+1995 Saxon Tour(500cc)
1997 MZ 660 Traveller+6/13/09 WV USA
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of everything"
"I like the road less traveled if it's PAVED!"
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby chadz » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:31 pm

so any auto car shop?any universal relay?or is the a product code for one?can you get a pic of yours whats on there now?and hows yours been with a different relay on?is it reliable?cheers
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:38 pm

got one in hand will take picture
this week end

and send me the name of an auto parts supplier in you area and i look at what they have
in there stock on there web site
dave
Dave 2002 MZ RT125+1995 Saxon Tour(500cc)
1997 MZ 660 Traveller+6/13/09 WV USA
"IN the end times the IDIOTS will be in charge
of everything"
"I like the road less traveled if it's PAVED!"
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby chadz » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:10 pm

http://www.a1motorstores.co.uk/catalogue


This is the company i will be using and cheers pic will come in handy
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:09 am

sent you a halfords link a1 does not let me search there stocking lists for relays
show them the halfords parts numbers they may have it
dave
Dave 2002 MZ RT125+1995 Saxon Tour(500cc)
1997 MZ 660 Traveller+6/13/09 WV USA
"IN the end times the IDIOTS will be in charge
of everything"
"I like the road less traveled if it's PAVED!"
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby den » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:34 pm

chadz wrote:Its still at it :( getting a new plug for it tomoz but no idea what it could be,what does that little
Electric box do near battery that you may think it is david?i have seen it but got a few connectors on.
Cheers


you mean the fuse box
Oh mutly,,you did it again,she he he he he ehheheheh
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Re: Got a problem already

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:51 pm

no i have never had any problems with the fuse holder or very many complaints about the fuse holder
but he mite try some new fuses as the quality of some fuses has been a problem in the last couple years

its the chronic relay 19 problem 660 bike have it also on them its relay 30
and all the electric except the starter big wire goes through it
dave
Dave 2002 MZ RT125+1995 Saxon Tour(500cc)
1997 MZ 660 Traveller+6/13/09 WV USA
"IN the end times the IDIOTS will be in charge
of everything"
"I like the road less traveled if it's PAVED!"
wd8cyv at yahoo dot com
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