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Postby JT700 » Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:01 pm

What if you stuck one of these in a bike for instance a supermoto baggy??????? :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:


http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
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Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:20 am

no go
super chargers and blowers on big singles need a long intake
so that when the piston starts down there is a smooth flow of air and
fuel... not a the sucking of air so fast the blower can not keep up
and more fuel and not enough air gets to the motor

the british engine designers from the 1930' can explain it
they found it made more power but was a pain to get to work right
and a good 650 single or twin will make more power than
most of us want or need...... mostly NEED
the only time i have found MORE or BIGGER being better
was when it applied to CASH in my pocket book :-D

so i can afford a toy like this when the saxon tour is old and worn

http://www.dieselmotorcycles.com/models.htm
http://www.dieselmotorcycles.com/PDF/D6 ... dog_US.pdf

ah yes to dream of things to ride !!!!! :-D
hope they make a SM model :D
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Postby JT700 » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:19 pm

So a big single makes more vacuum on its intake stroke than something like that would be able to produce in pressurised air, and being that the float bowls would be pressurised with that too it would just flood the engine with fuel. :( Wasnt really thinking about that just about how much power I might be able to produce :twisted: Oh well I geuss ill just have to save up for the Trintity 686!!


As for the diesel bikes thats pretty interesting. I would imagine the low end torque on those would be amazing. you could probably pull up tree stumps with that thing.
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Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:26 pm

here is the saxon tour spec
1995 mz saxon tour 504e rotax motor
28 bhp @ 6000 rpm measured at the rear wheel. Some
reports of 29+ bhp.
Maximum torque: 38 Nm, (28 Ft/Lbs) with >35 Nm (26 Ft/Lbs) from 3200 -
5200 rpm
Weight: 329 lbs. dry
Approx. 350 lbs. wet

the diesel motorcycle is stated as 30ps @5700 and 32ft lb at 4200rpm
so from riding my tour the diesel will not be the fastest
bike in town but in its usefull life will pass lots of gas stops

and will run faster than any one needs to go on a bike :-D
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Postby JT700 » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:37 pm

The fuel mileage on that was stated at 97 mpg thats really good even better then 50cc scooters. And diesel engine reliability cant be beat my cousin has a 99 ford superduty diesel, that he uses for hauling farm equipment and farmwork. It has like 290,000 miles on it never rebuilt and still runs like it is new. That bike would be good for years to come. How did you find out about that though. I would never have thought that anybody made a diesel bike.
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Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:04 pm

the saxon tour i have has the same motor as the US MARINES
HD MT500 made from 1995 to 2002
and i ran across it in looking at military bikes
a version of this bike is being put in service
to replace the HD MT 500 as it is gas and will spend the rest
of its service life where it can be fueled at PX stores on base
at the armed forces does away with gasoline powered stuff
this bike will move to the front lines and the HD MT 500
will do duty at home till its service life is over
a lot of them will see border patrol and forest service use
some links for you winter enjoyment
"if you can't find it you not lookin hard enough"

http://www.mathewscollection.com/motorc ... _MT500.htm
http://www.realclassic.co.uk/arms030307.html


this last one has 3 parts
http://www.realclassic.co.uk/snarley.html
http://www.realclassic.co.uk/snarley030407.html
http://www.realclassic.co.uk/snarley030519.html

this should fill in some bad winter nights :)
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Postby keithcross » Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:53 am

The British Army will, I understand, soon be taking delivery of Diesel engined bike. This is part of a policy for making the army `single fuel' Even to the point of developing small deisel generators for radio systems.
It would appear that this is being done to avoid having to take more than one type of fuel to a battle field. Makes sense really. Run out of fuel on you bike sir, no worries just take a little out of that tank over there :)
There is also a bike manuafacturer in India that sells a diesel engined bike.

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Diesel bikes

Postby Bagwan » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:35 pm

Enfeild were doing a 500 diesel which was suppose to do 100+mpg. Check out MCN , Feb 8th for a Dutch company with a diesel sports?? bike- with optional 2wd :smt044
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Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:45 pm

the us made m1030 is nice but the civil model first production run of 200
is in march and list is $18,999usd with the mil spec motor

i can buy a lot of rt125's and baggies for that money
so dont look for me on one
unless i win the lottery real big :-D
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Re: hdt

Postby keithcross » Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:22 pm

DAVID THOMPSON wrote:the us made m1030 is nice but the civil model first production run of 200
is in march and list is $18,999usd with the mil spec motor

i can buy a lot of rt125's and baggies for that money
so dont look for me on one
unless i win the lottery real big :-D


If you won the lottery real big, why would you worry about gas milage :)

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Postby F0ul_Oli » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:00 am

The US Army have had a diesel bike developed from a Kawasaki KLR650.

I think there are details on here - http://www.kneeslider.com
I will only run out of ways of modify the Baggy when it weighs less that 100 kg and runs 100 bhp at the back wheel!!


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Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:02 am

the bike above is the m1030 it is the civil version of the
bike developed for the us marines the us army may also get it

and some nato countries

but the price makes it a rich mans toy
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Postby JT700 » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:17 pm

Im supposed to have a bike in my job in the army in fact the recruiting video(for my job) shows people riding one around but they phased them out about 4-5 years ago right befor I got in. thats one opf the main reasons I joined so I could have a job where I ride a bike. OH WELL. I think only special ops gets them now though. Im pretty sure they were the kawasaki KL 650 slightly modified for the military.
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